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		<title>By: 2007: Tops and Flops &#171; Tech IT Easy</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>2007: Tops and Flops &#171; Tech IT Easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1) Facebook. With almost 60 million active users and a valuation well above the $10bln, everything is rosy for 2007&#8217;s most successful social network. Despite some recent mistakes, Facebook might very well be the next Google. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1) Facebook. With almost 60 million active users and a valuation well above the $10bln, everything is rosy for 2007&#8217;s most successful social network. Despite some recent mistakes, Facebook might very well be the next Google. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ronan,



I couldn&#039;t agree more on the potential of Facebook. Even if MySpace has more users, even if FB is nowhere in Brazil (vs. Orkut), UK (vs.Bebo), Finland (apparently) , I really believe in an advanced social network being a perfect portal for accessing the Internet.



Nonetheless, one shouldn&#039;t believe to much in the internalization of applications / services in one website or portal. After all, even if a social network cannot for now compete technically with Facebooks, there still is and will be a room for sub-applications such as photo sharing, editing, IM, etc...Because they are focused on a single part, these specific applications or services just have a tendency to be constantly improved, and therefore much better than complete integrated packages.





It&#039;s like the PC industry: even if you do sell the best PC ever, you will still find far better components available on the market. The collection and integration of all these is not an easy job, and certainly only a few players can do it well; but hey, you can&#039;t just pretend control the whole chain, and develop yourself OS, CPUs, GPUs, hard drives, RAM, peripherals, and all that. At least you will never offer the optimal products all along the chain.



Apple has tried, and failed: IBM has tried, and failed. No doubt opening up even more the &quot;application&quot; network and enhancing compatibility with third party software or Internet services should be the right way of doing for Facebook to definitely wash away competitors.



Yet this means accepting diversity, pluralism and competition, like IBM did when they sub-contracted chips and OS dor their PCs to Intel and Microsoft respectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ronan,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more on the potential of Facebook. Even if MySpace has more users, even if FB is nowhere in Brazil (vs. Orkut), UK (vs.Bebo), Finland (apparently) , I really believe in an advanced social network being a perfect portal for accessing the Internet.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, one shouldn&#8217;t believe to much in the internalization of applications / services in one website or portal. After all, even if a social network cannot for now compete technically with Facebooks, there still is and will be a room for sub-applications such as photo sharing, editing, IM, etc&#8230;Because they are focused on a single part, these specific applications or services just have a tendency to be constantly improved, and therefore much better than complete integrated packages.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the PC industry: even if you do sell the best PC ever, you will still find far better components available on the market. The collection and integration of all these is not an easy job, and certainly only a few players can do it well; but hey, you can&#8217;t just pretend control the whole chain, and develop yourself OS, CPUs, GPUs, hard drives, RAM, peripherals, and all that. At least you will never offer the optimal products all along the chain.</p>
<p>Apple has tried, and failed: IBM has tried, and failed. No doubt opening up even more the &#8220;application&#8221; network and enhancing compatibility with third party software or Internet services should be the right way of doing for Facebook to definitely wash away competitors.</p>
<p>Yet this means accepting diversity, pluralism and competition, like IBM did when they sub-contracted chips and OS dor their PCs to Intel and Microsoft respectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2407</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent discussion - to add some figures on Facebook. Facekook is multiplying its size very YEAR. No doubt that they will be strong in Finland in some months and everywhere else in the world, at any place, reaching any social sphere and people from very different ages.



Many analysts says that Facebook will not eat the internet entirely, because Microsoft and Google already tried, and they were not successful. Contrary to those analysts, I really think Facebook wil eat the entire internet. They will be the internet inside the internet. There will be Facebook and the rest of the (internet) world.



Before everyone used one&#039;s computer to access the internet, and in fine  to access services. Now everyone will use a computer to access internet to access facebook to access services. An interesting figure would be to analyze how many startups Facebook killed or will killed (e.g. birthday Alarm, photos services ...) and how many new creation they will make possible inside Facebook with their platforM. Go to developer.facebook.com and watch the F8 video.



No wonder why Marc Z. refused the takeover bids: Facebook is much more valuable than anything. It is worth 25% of the internet value - how much is it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent discussion &#8211; to add some figures on Facebook. Facekook is multiplying its size very YEAR. No doubt that they will be strong in Finland in some months and everywhere else in the world, at any place, reaching any social sphere and people from very different ages.</p>
<p>Many analysts says that Facebook will not eat the internet entirely, because Microsoft and Google already tried, and they were not successful. Contrary to those analysts, I really think Facebook wil eat the entire internet. They will be the internet inside the internet. There will be Facebook and the rest of the (internet) world.</p>
<p>Before everyone used one&#8217;s computer to access the internet, and in fine  to access services. Now everyone will use a computer to access internet to access facebook to access services. An interesting figure would be to analyze how many startups Facebook killed or will killed (e.g. birthday Alarm, photos services &#8230;) and how many new creation they will make possible inside Facebook with their platforM. Go to developer.facebook.com and watch the F8 video.</p>
<p>No wonder why Marc Z. refused the takeover bids: Facebook is much more valuable than anything. It is worth 25% of the internet value &#8211; how much is it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Thoughts -- Harvard University &#171; Campus Entrepreneurship</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Thoughts -- Harvard University &#171; Campus Entrepreneurship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] surfing wordpress tags I found this entry on facebook&#8217;s business [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, BTW, I forgot to mention that Adobe has launched an online photo editing tool.



This is significant...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTW, I forgot to mention that Adobe has launched an online photo editing tool.</p>
<p>This is significant&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2411</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kari,

” Unless of course you mean by OS a core set of applications like e-mail, text editor etc.

” =&gt; more or less.

You would have probably noticed that I did not mention “web based OS” in my post. For example, I don’t believe in a Google OS either.

What I meant, more precisely, was that if most applications are now web-based, and therefore OS-independent, then as I said “light is shed out of the OS”. The most important game is then not fought between OS providers but rather betwen online application providers.

For the “terminal/mainframe stuff, Steve”, you’re absolutely right: Sun has been advocating this approach since decades. I can even recall when in 1997, McNealy (Sun’s CEO) compared computers with water taps, suggesting that the characteristics of the computer (including its OS) will be fully secondary to the quality of the Internet access.

However, you and I surely agree that this visions still remains far from reality… at least for now. I found interesting to see that both Google and Facebook are actively working in that direction though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kari,</p>
<p>” Unless of course you mean by OS a core set of applications like e-mail, text editor etc.</p>
<p>” =&gt; more or less.</p>
<p>You would have probably noticed that I did not mention “web based OS” in my post. For example, I don’t believe in a Google OS either.</p>
<p>What I meant, more precisely, was that if most applications are now web-based, and therefore OS-independent, then as I said “light is shed out of the OS”. The most important game is then not fought between OS providers but rather betwen online application providers.</p>
<p>For the “terminal/mainframe stuff, Steve”, you’re absolutely right: Sun has been advocating this approach since decades. I can even recall when in 1997, McNealy (Sun’s CEO) compared computers with water taps, suggesting that the characteristics of the computer (including its OS) will be fully secondary to the quality of the Internet access.</p>
<p>However, you and I surely agree that this visions still remains far from reality… at least for now. I found interesting to see that both Google and Facebook are actively working in that direction though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari Silvennoinen</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari Silvennoinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 06:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again I think I disagree quite strongly with you Steve, I don&#039;t believe in web-based OSs. Unless of course you mean by OS a core set of applications like e-mail, text editor etc.



Also, a reality check, as far as I know, Facebook is nothing in Finland, where as Google and Microsoft are (naturally) used a lot. I bring this up because even though Internet has homogenized a lot of information (Google, Wikipedia...), there are still a lot of regional differences. One only needs to take a look what is the major IM network in different European countries. For example, no-one I know uses either AIM or Yahoo! in Finland, but there are people still mainly using ICQ. The vast majority are Live Messenger users.



Web 2.0 seems more and more to me as presentation layer people trying to fix infrastructure layer stuff (I read this excellent description in some blog I can&#039;t remember anymore). If it&#039;s terminal/mainframe stuff, Steve, you&#039;re after, Sun&#039;s been working that angle for years and years. You know, the company, who has the slogan &quot;the network is the computer&quot;? I doubt Facebook can never rival the solutions Sun and other traditional companies have created for mobile web infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again I think I disagree quite strongly with you Steve, I don&#8217;t believe in web-based OSs. Unless of course you mean by OS a core set of applications like e-mail, text editor etc.</p>
<p>Also, a reality check, as far as I know, Facebook is nothing in Finland, where as Google and Microsoft are (naturally) used a lot. I bring this up because even though Internet has homogenized a lot of information (Google, Wikipedia&#8230;), there are still a lot of regional differences. One only needs to take a look what is the major IM network in different European countries. For example, no-one I know uses either AIM or Yahoo! in Finland, but there are people still mainly using ICQ. The vast majority are Live Messenger users.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 seems more and more to me as presentation layer people trying to fix infrastructure layer stuff (I read this excellent description in some blog I can&#8217;t remember anymore). If it&#8217;s terminal/mainframe stuff, Steve, you&#8217;re after, Sun&#8217;s been working that angle for years and years. You know, the company, who has the slogan &#8220;the network is the computer&#8221;? I doubt Facebook can never rival the solutions Sun and other traditional companies have created for mobile web infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2420</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 20:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff :  Thanks for your post ! I should have had a look before.

Actually I have seen Facebook’s applications getting more and more popular in the recent days, but I did not understand how they made it, neither did I believe it corresponded to an offensive strategy…

@Matthias: You are right. I also truly prefer a “standard” OS, traditional desktop applications, etc.. My ISP keeps unplugging Internet occasionnally, just imagine how painful this could be if most of my work was done online !

But although OSs are alive and kicking, this trend towards online application is doubtless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff :  Thanks for your post ! I should have had a look before.</p>
<p>Actually I have seen Facebook’s applications getting more and more popular in the recent days, but I did not understand how they made it, neither did I believe it corresponded to an offensive strategy…</p>
<p>@Matthias: You are right. I also truly prefer a “standard” OS, traditional desktop applications, etc.. My ISP keeps unplugging Internet occasionnally, just imagine how painful this could be if most of my work was done online !</p>
<p>But although OSs are alive and kicking, this trend towards online application is doubtless.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2419</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally I got it! Ok! But this does not answer my question. Because Facebook today makes the money out of it&#039;s huge (and further growing) community.



Beside that I never meant that Facebook would enter the business of search engines. There Google is much to far ahead.



Concerning the new OS: David Gelernter talks about something similar, I think. See here: http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0507/156.html



My opinion to both Google and Facebook: At least for the next few years I will trust Microsoft and be happy about my licences. They let me work independently of the internet and store my files at my own place. Why should I share any secret either with Facebook or with Google?



For me Microsofts business is safe as long as we do have to pay for internet access. But how many years  will this go on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally I got it! Ok! But this does not answer my question. Because Facebook today makes the money out of it&#8217;s huge (and further growing) community.</p>
<p>Beside that I never meant that Facebook would enter the business of search engines. There Google is much to far ahead.</p>
<p>Concerning the new OS: David Gelernter talks about something similar, I think. See here: <a href="http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0507/156.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0507/156.html</a></p>
<p>My opinion to both Google and Facebook: At least for the next few years I will trust Microsoft and be happy about my licences. They let me work independently of the internet and store my files at my own place. Why should I share any secret either with Facebook or with Google?</p>
<p>For me Microsofts business is safe as long as we do have to pay for internet access. But how many years  will this go on?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kee</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2418</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blog.jeffkee.com/2007/02/25/the-facebook-revolution-using-apis/



Facebook&#039;s API concept is a great one, and they have their own query language platform set up already for data retrieval.



The extendability of Facebook by 3rd party developers is what makes it very powerul, potentially.



They already added a classified advertisement system, additional applications within your own profile that you can add at will, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.jeffkee.com/2007/02/25/the-facebook-revolution-using-apis/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.jeffkee.com/2007/02/25/the-facebook-revolution-using-apis/</a></p>
<p>Facebook&#8217;s API concept is a great one, and they have their own query language platform set up already for data retrieval.</p>
<p>The extendability of Facebook by 3rd party developers is what makes it very powerul, potentially.</p>
<p>They already added a classified advertisement system, additional applications within your own profile that you can add at will, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2415</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthias, I do not mean that Facebook tries to become a search engine. Did Leo and you actually read my post ? ;-)



To summarize what I said: both Google and Facebook are developing online applications, that could in the mid-run replace desktop applications, and why not completely bring light out of conventional OSs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthias, I do not mean that Facebook tries to become a search engine. Did Leo and you actually read my post ? <img src='http://www.techiteasy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To summarize what I said: both Google and Facebook are developing online applications, that could in the mid-run replace desktop applications, and why not completely bring light out of conventional OSs.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2413</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 16:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me this discussion is very surprising! I always took Google for a search engine combined with an advertising departement. Facebook instead startet as a real web 2.0 social community - and all that was easy and comprehensive.



Now things get difficult as Facebook reaches out for new goals. My question is: What will Facebook&#039;s community do? Will they stay? The students only wanted a cuddly playground and now things get very different. Isn&#039;t that a risky strategy for facebook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me this discussion is very surprising! I always took Google for a search engine combined with an advertising departement. Facebook instead startet as a real web 2.0 social community &#8211; and all that was easy and comprehensive.</p>
<p>Now things get difficult as Facebook reaches out for new goals. My question is: What will Facebook&#8217;s community do? Will they stay? The students only wanted a cuddly playground and now things get very different. Isn&#8217;t that a risky strategy for facebook?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2421</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo, have a look at the CNN article I&#039;ve quoted in my post. Although this details only the vision of Facebook&#039;s management and probably not the reality for the years to come, we should take them very very seriously...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo, have a look at the CNN article I&#8217;ve quoted in my post. Although this details only the vision of Facebook&#8217;s management and probably not the reality for the years to come, we should take them very very seriously&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Sellem</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard Sellem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 14:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure Facebook purpose is to become a customizable homapage, like Netvibes or Google. Its model is too restrictive, allowing only licenced third-parties to develop applications. I think it will better compete in a short term with blogging plateforms, making it easyier to find one&#039;s friends and to share content with them. Facebook is originally a community plateform, and I think it will remain so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure Facebook purpose is to become a customizable homapage, like Netvibes or Google. Its model is too restrictive, allowing only licenced third-parties to develop applications. I think it will better compete in a short term with blogging plateforms, making it easyier to find one&#8217;s friends and to share content with them. Facebook is originally a community plateform, and I think it will remain so.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Danino</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Danino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Léo,



Actually, Facebook could be a very good customized homepage, something that Google isn&#039;t as of yet.

It seems that it aims to do even better than sharing video/text/pictures, like for example editing directly pictures within the web page, something only advanced AJAX principles seem to allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Léo,</p>
<p>Actually, Facebook could be a very good customized homepage, something that Google isn&#8217;t as of yet.</p>
<p>It seems that it aims to do even better than sharing video/text/pictures, like for example editing directly pictures within the web page, something only advanced AJAX principles seem to allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Sellem</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/05/28/is-facebook-the-next-google/#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard Sellem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 13:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,

I agree with you on Facebook&#039;s evolving business model, making it a prominent actor on the online landscape. It&#039;s moving from a simple community website to a content sharing platform. The famous Facebook&#039;s &quot;share&quot; icon took time to be widely used, but now seems to have entered the member&#039;s habits. Like digg or technorati, it allows to qualify websites, video or blog posts referencing. On this point, it is indeed a threat to google leadership, challenging the model of automated website referencing.</description>
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<p>I agree with you on Facebook&#8217;s evolving business model, making it a prominent actor on the online landscape. It&#8217;s moving from a simple community website to a content sharing platform. The famous Facebook&#8217;s &#8220;share&#8221; icon took time to be widely used, but now seems to have entered the member&#8217;s habits. Like digg or technorati, it allows to qualify websites, video or blog posts referencing. On this point, it is indeed a threat to google leadership, challenging the model of automated website referencing.</p>
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