Comments on: Scrum and XP from the trenches http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/ A Technology and Business Weblog provided to You by a Global Group of Friends. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:29:11 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: L’Entreprise 2.0 expliquée à nos managers en 10 principes sous-jacents « Heavy Mental http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-5173 L’Entreprise 2.0 expliquée à nos managers en 10 principes sous-jacents « Heavy Mental Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:01:33 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-5173 [...] le même manière qu’une gestion de projet agile (privilégiant la transparence, la simplicité, le contact, le management visuel, la simplicité [...] [...] le même manière qu’une gestion de projet agile (privilégiant la transparence, la simplicité, le contact, le management visuel, la simplicité [...]

]]> By: L’Entreprise 2.0 expliquée à nos managers : les 10 principes sous-jacents « Heavy Mental http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-5172 L’Entreprise 2.0 expliquée à nos managers : les 10 principes sous-jacents « Heavy Mental Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:55:33 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-5172 [...] le même manière qu’une gestion de projet agile (privilégiant la transparence, la simplicité, le contact, le management visuel, la simplicité [...] [...] le même manière qu’une gestion de projet agile (privilégiant la transparence, la simplicité, le contact, le management visuel, la simplicité [...]

]]> By: “The knowledge-creating company” — does it work in practice? « Tech IT Easy http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3092 “The knowledge-creating company” — does it work in practice? « Tech IT Easy Fri, 29 May 2009 10:28:01 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3092 [...] It kind of follows the paradigm that the famous Harvard Business Review article called “The Knowledge-Creating Company” introduces, where experts possess a lot of tacit knowledge, which they use to do their job (Incidentally, the HBR-article is authored by Ikujiro Nonaka and Hirotaka Takeuchi, who are the original protagonists of the Scrum approach). [...] [...] It kind of follows the paradigm that the famous Harvard Business Review article called “The Knowledge-Creating Company” introduces, where experts possess a lot of tacit knowledge, which they use to do their job (Incidentally, the HBR-article is authored by Ikujiro Nonaka and Hirotaka Takeuchi, who are the original protagonists of the Scrum approach). [...]

]]> By: Mark Worden http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3101 Mark Worden Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:49:41 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3101 Guys, we're using Wrike project management tool for Scrum now. It works excellent! Though it was hard to believe at first. Take a look at this post http://www.wrike.com/blog/8/12/2007/Scrum_in_Wrike__making_software_development_more_agile Guys, we’re using Wrike project management tool for Scrum now. It works excellent! Though it was hard to believe at first. Take a look at this post http://www.wrike.com/blog/8/12/2007/Scrum_in_Wrike__making_software_development_more_agile

]]> By: Scrum, Agile, XP and the real life « Heavy Mental http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3093 Scrum, Agile, XP and the real life « Heavy Mental Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:44:14 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3093 [...] have just posted my first contribution : this is about the Henrik Kniberg e-book : Scrum and XP from the Trenches. I was kinda [...] [...] have just posted my first contribution : this is about the Henrik Kniberg e-book : Scrum and XP from the Trenches. I was kinda [...]

]]> By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3094 Vincent van Wylick Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:42:06 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3094 Which makes this an excellent topic to debate. Go nuts, guys! :) Which makes this an excellent topic to debate. Go nuts, guys! :)

]]> By: ceciiil http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3095 ceciiil Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:14:54 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3095 I think that the main things with agile (TDD, continuous integration, short iteration etc ...) really help in having a very tight control on risks. From my experience : this is just common sense and it really helped a lot in delivering quality products on time, rather quickly. In my mainframe years I was using the waterfall approach and I am not a big fan of this. Besides, it just does not cope easily with requirements changes. To be honest Jeremy, I cant really see type of projects where these basic principles are not appropriate. I think that the main things with agile (TDD, continuous integration, short iteration etc …) really help in having a very tight control on risks.

From my experience : this is just common sense and it really helped a lot in delivering quality products on time, rather quickly.

In my mainframe years I was using the waterfall approach and I am not a big fan of this. Besides, it just does not cope easily with requirements changes.

To be honest Jeremy, I cant really see type of projects where these basic principles are not appropriate.

]]> By: Jeremy Fain http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3096 Jeremy Fain Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:02:02 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3096 I like that daily status meeting thing. Some people don't appreciate being monitored so thoroughly though. I experienced it myself, when a few years ago I kept asking everyday to someone I was working with (in a non hierarchical environment since we were talking of non-for-profit volunteer work) what she was doing. After a few day of work together, she answered shouting: "will you stop thinking I'm not able to achieve anything?" Then I switched to a more passive more, giving her mini-projects and checking every 3 days rather than everyday. We eventually became friends... When working in a startup in Israel, we used to hold daily status meetings. Very often, one of the 3 developers wouldn't show up: "too busy", "focused", "concentrated on an issue", etc. So we found the solution: hold very quick status meetings 1) when walking to the restaurant for lunch; 2) when we moved to a building that had a restaurant on floor 1 (US floors), we held brief, seamless meetings while waiting for the food. VERY USEFUL. Although I believe agile methodologies provide some fresh air to rusty V cycles, it isn't a "one method fits all projects" format. XP, or eXtreme Programming, in my opinion only applies to very specific projects. As far as I see it, it's very hard to match the conditions for developing in XP organizations. I should write a post some day on the conditions that should make the project team go for XP. What do you think? I like that daily status meeting thing. Some people don’t appreciate being monitored so thoroughly though. I experienced it myself, when a few years ago I kept asking everyday to someone I was working with (in a non hierarchical environment since we were talking of non-for-profit volunteer work) what she was doing. After a few day of work together, she answered shouting: “will you stop thinking I’m not able to achieve anything?” Then I switched to a more passive more, giving her mini-projects and checking every 3 days rather than everyday. We eventually became friends…

When working in a startup in Israel, we used to hold daily status meetings. Very often, one of the 3 developers wouldn’t show up: “too busy”, “focused”, “concentrated on an issue”, etc. So we found the solution: hold very quick status meetings 1) when walking to the restaurant for lunch; 2) when we moved to a building that had a restaurant on floor 1 (US floors), we held brief, seamless meetings while waiting for the food. VERY USEFUL.

Although I believe agile methodologies provide some fresh air to rusty V cycles, it isn’t a “one method fits all projects” format. XP, or eXtreme Programming, in my opinion only applies to very specific projects. As far as I see it, it’s very hard to match the conditions for developing in XP organizations. I should write a post some day on the conditions that should make the project team go for XP. What do you think?

]]> By: ceciiil http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3097 ceciiil Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:57:17 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3097 This "adapt to constantly evolving requirements" is really one of the main principle of Agile methodologies . Scrum being itself an Agile approach fully supports that. Actually the book address that very issue a couple of times. Another issue is to make sure dev team fully understands the scope of a story and the expected outputs. Henrik gives a couple of examples where during sprint planning just asking a few questions save dev team to develop needless features. This “adapt to constantly evolving requirements” is really one of the main principle of Agile methodologies .

Scrum being itself an Agile approach fully supports that. Actually the book address that very issue a couple of times.

Another issue is to make sure dev team fully understands the scope of a story and the expected outputs. Henrik gives a couple of examples where during sprint planning just asking a few questions save dev team to develop needless features.

]]> By: Kari http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3100 Kari Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:12:05 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3100 Great review, I've been interested in Scrum for a while now as I really would like to believe in its philosophy. In my opinion its admission that "things change" is something that many methods try to ignore. Great review, I’ve been interested in Scrum for a while now as I really would like to believe in its philosophy. In my opinion its admission that “things change” is something that many methods try to ignore.

]]> By: Fred Brunel » Scrum and XP from the Trenches http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3099 Fred Brunel » Scrum and XP from the Trenches Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:38:43 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3099 [...] Read a more in depth review of this book on Tech IT [...] [...] Read a more in depth review of this book on Tech IT [...]

]]> By: Fred Brunel http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3098 Fred Brunel Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:36:47 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-3098 Excellent review, Cecil. Excellent review, Cecil.

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