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	<title>Comments on: Four Hour Work Week for IT Workers</title>
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		<title>By: Vishva Kumara</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/10/07/four-hour-work-week-for-it-workers/#comment-3275</link>
		<dc:creator>Vishva Kumara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you in a different way. Once I have negotiated with the management to work 4 days 8 to 5; Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. I have said to them that I want Wednesday free to relax and keep my creativity up. But later the HR have said to them that it was a problem to them to calculate my salery if I came only 4 days to work and that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you in a different way. Once I have negotiated with the management to work 4 days 8 to 5; Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. I have said to them that I want Wednesday free to relax and keep my creativity up. But later the HR have said to them that it was a problem to them to calculate my salery if I came only 4 days to work and that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: compassioninpolitics</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/10/07/four-hour-work-week-for-it-workers/#comment-3276</link>
		<dc:creator>compassioninpolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some interesting claims.  If what you say is true then a book like Ferris&#039;s should focus not only on decreasing workload, but also on finding your creative sweet spot.



Alternatively, I do think generally decreasing your e-mail diet is a great time saving tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some interesting claims.  If what you say is true then a book like Ferris&#8217;s should focus not only on decreasing workload, but also on finding your creative sweet spot.</p>
<p>Alternatively, I do think generally decreasing your e-mail diet is a great time saving tip.</p>
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		<title>By: 40 hour work week questioned &#124; TechTalk</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/10/07/four-hour-work-week-for-it-workers/#comment-3277</link>
		<dc:creator>40 hour work week questioned &#124; TechTalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some interesting information on the origins of 40 hour work weeks and insights on why or we not should we adher to it are at Four Hour Work Week for IT Workers « Tech IT Easy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some interesting information on the origins of 40 hour work weeks and insights on why or we not should we adher to it are at Four Hour Work Week for IT Workers « Tech IT Easy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clinestine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Clinestine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I must read this book.  I saw an interesting post on it at www.bizplusblog.com.  Kevin Price says the practical application of the concept seems to be difficult.  He has a video with Ferris on there as well.  Great stuff!  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I must read this book.  I saw an interesting post on it at <a href="http://www.bizplusblog.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bizplusblog.com</a>.  Kevin Price says the practical application of the concept seems to be difficult.  He has a video with Ferris on there as well.  Great stuff!  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent van Wylick</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/10/07/four-hour-work-week-for-it-workers/#comment-3274</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent van Wylick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like an interesting 2-min view of what the workplace for IT-worker might look like: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfXksLir1g&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfXksLir1g &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like an interesting 2-min view of what the workplace for IT-worker might look like: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfXksLir1g" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfXksLir1g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfXksLir1g</a> </p>
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		<title>By: 40 hour work week questioned - A 4 Hour Work Week Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/10/07/four-hour-work-week-for-it-workers/#comment-3278</link>
		<dc:creator>40 hour work week questioned - A 4 Hour Work Week Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 40 hour work week questioned     Some interesting information on the origins of 40 hour work weeks and insights on why or we not should we adher to it are at Four Hour Work Week for IT Workers « Tech IT Easy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 40 hour work week questioned     Some interesting information on the origins of 40 hour work weeks and insights on why or we not should we adher to it are at Four Hour Work Week for IT Workers « Tech IT Easy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent van Wylick</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/10/07/four-hour-work-week-for-it-workers/#comment-3279</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent van Wylick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Raj was arguing against work as a principle. Rather against the &#039;40 hour&#039; principle, vs. what it takes to be productive. So in my view there&#039;s no disagreement here.



That said, I think Ferriss operates on a number of assumptions, which should be addressed:

- &lt;b&gt;no administrative overhead:&lt;/b&gt; outsourcing activities requires management and trust, as, incidentally, does teleworking from home. How can you be sure that your personal assistant is doing his/her job correctly, not to mention what jobs he/she should be doing? I&#039;m sure Ferriss addresses this in some way in the book, but everybody has a different system and lifestyle and there will certainly be a warming-up period before all works optimally, which comes at a cost.

- from what I read on Ferris&#039;s website, &lt;b&gt;outsourcing also depends on cheap labour &lt;/b&gt;. When everyone outsources to India, I expect costs to go up. It&#039;s a simple issue of supply/demand.

- &lt;b&gt;is IT always going to be fairyland material?&lt;/b&gt; I understand the whole creativity-burst theory very well, I experience it everyday. But I believe that as certain knowledge shifts from the tacit to the explicit, that there are also ways to measure output, i.e. in lines of code, etc. As IT becomes more mature, so should methods of measuring it, and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s already happening in many companies.

- &lt;b&gt;are all IT-people/knowledge-workers equal? &lt;/b&gt; Ignoring for a second that Ferriss appears to have become successful &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; he found his system, does that mean that unsuccessful people can implement the same system as easily? Not only are, in my view, learning costs ignored, but not everyone operates equally. Some knowledge-work, e.g. research, will depend on widget-output, as does IT-work, e.g. filling code vs. design.

- &lt;b&gt;what are the consequences on society?&lt;/b&gt; I love how guru&#039;s promote the individualistic lifestyle, but what are the effects of billions of people working only 4 hours/week, really? First of all, there is still widget-work to be done and who will do it? Prominent forecasters like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saffo.com/journal/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul Saffo&lt;/a&gt; are predicting that the era for robots is still decades away, perhaps 30-50 years. I already mentioned the effects of shifting outsourcing abroad in the long-term.



That and many more are questions that I have about Ferriss&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Raj was arguing against work as a principle. Rather against the &#8216;40 hour&#8217; principle, vs. what it takes to be productive. So in my view there&#8217;s no disagreement here.</p>
<p>That said, I think Ferriss operates on a number of assumptions, which should be addressed:</p>
<p>- <b>no administrative overhead:</b> outsourcing activities requires management and trust, as, incidentally, does teleworking from home. How can you be sure that your personal assistant is doing his/her job correctly, not to mention what jobs he/she should be doing? I&#8217;m sure Ferriss addresses this in some way in the book, but everybody has a different system and lifestyle and there will certainly be a warming-up period before all works optimally, which comes at a cost.</p>
<p>- from what I read on Ferris&#8217;s website, <b>outsourcing also depends on cheap labour </b>. When everyone outsources to India, I expect costs to go up. It&#8217;s a simple issue of supply/demand.</p>
<p>- <b>is IT always going to be fairyland material?</b> I understand the whole creativity-burst theory very well, I experience it everyday. But I believe that as certain knowledge shifts from the tacit to the explicit, that there are also ways to measure output, i.e. in lines of code, etc. As IT becomes more mature, so should methods of measuring it, and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s already happening in many companies.</p>
<p>- <b>are all IT-people/knowledge-workers equal? </b> Ignoring for a second that Ferriss appears to have become successful <i>before</i> he found his system, does that mean that unsuccessful people can implement the same system as easily? Not only are, in my view, learning costs ignored, but not everyone operates equally. Some knowledge-work, e.g. research, will depend on widget-output, as does IT-work, e.g. filling code vs. design.</p>
<p>- <b>what are the consequences on society?</b> I love how guru&#8217;s promote the individualistic lifestyle, but what are the effects of billions of people working only 4 hours/week, really? First of all, there is still widget-work to be done and who will do it? Prominent forecasters like <a href="http://www.saffo.com/journal/index.php" rel="nofollow">Paul Saffo</a> are predicting that the era for robots is still decades away, perhaps 30-50 years. I already mentioned the effects of shifting outsourcing abroad in the long-term.</p>
<p>That and many more are questions that I have about Ferriss&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Fain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Fain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To go the extra mile, I think we should even stop working so that productivity wouldn&#039;t be an issue anymore ;-)



I actually disagree with your theory: I see work as blessing.



By the way, good organizations don&#039;t account working hours but results. I work at Microsoft and no matter if I work from home or the Carribeans as long as I meet my commitments: some people arrive at 7am and leave early, some arrive at 10:30am and leave early, most people work normal hours + 1 day / week from home. I believe most great organizations don&#039;t give a damn about working hours: what matters most is to get the job done.



Last thing, about commuting: the average commuting time worldwide is 40 minutes. 40 minutes x 2= 1 hour 20 minutes per day. Multiply by 5 or 6 (Asia) and you get around 7 hours per worker lost every week. Hence my call: teleworking is a real issue and enhances workers productivity. Imagine that people worked more instead of waisting time in public transportation and traffic! That would urge a 15% increase in productivity at no cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To go the extra mile, I think we should even stop working so that productivity wouldn&#8217;t be an issue anymore <img src='http://www.techiteasy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I actually disagree with your theory: I see work as blessing.</p>
<p>By the way, good organizations don&#8217;t account working hours but results. I work at Microsoft and no matter if I work from home or the Carribeans as long as I meet my commitments: some people arrive at 7am and leave early, some arrive at 10:30am and leave early, most people work normal hours + 1 day / week from home. I believe most great organizations don&#8217;t give a damn about working hours: what matters most is to get the job done.</p>
<p>Last thing, about commuting: the average commuting time worldwide is 40 minutes. 40 minutes x 2= 1 hour 20 minutes per day. Multiply by 5 or 6 (Asia) and you get around 7 hours per worker lost every week. Hence my call: teleworking is a real issue and enhances workers productivity. Imagine that people worked more instead of waisting time in public transportation and traffic! That would urge a 15% increase in productivity at no cost.</p>
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