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		<title>By: Luxurious software? &#171; Tech IT Easy</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3892</link>
		<dc:creator>Luxurious software? &#171; Tech IT Easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] want to shake things around on the iPhone, but because it&#8217;s often much simpler to communicate with a drawing. Instead I&#8217;m forced to type this text into an editor and hope you can read between the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Fresh Start (up) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cultural week</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3893</link>
		<dc:creator>A Fresh Start (up) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cultural week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a great conference by Dan Roam about visual thinking as part of the eBay Speaker Series. I wrote an article about it on Tech IT Easy, and it felt good to blog about interesting topics, and not just about what&#8217;s happening in my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a great conference by Dan Roam about visual thinking as part of the eBay Speaker Series. I wrote an article about it on Tech IT Easy, and it felt good to blog about interesting topics, and not just about what&#8217;s happening in my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Roam</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3897</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Roam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merci Fidji,

Your company has long been a great client for me, and it&#039;s nice to hear that people outside the UED group are getting the &quot;solving problems with pictures&quot; message.

Keep spreading the good word!

- Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merci Fidji,</p>
<p>Your company has long been a great client for me, and it&#8217;s nice to hear that people outside the UED group are getting the &#8220;solving problems with pictures&#8221; message.</p>
<p>Keep spreading the good word!</p>
<p>- Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Fidji SIMO</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3898</link>
		<dc:creator>Fidji SIMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, this is an honor to have you on this blog. Thank you so much for your insights, and for your great conference. As a visual artist in my spare time (I know this might seem weird considering that I&#039;m not a black pen girl!), your thoughts about codification made me think that it is the same thing about art, since each new way of representing the world generates so much interrogation, which basically creates art trends, with new rules and codifications. Anyway, I&#039;m glad I could contribute to have Tech IT Easy readers discover your book, since I couldn&#039;t stop reading it yesterday evening!



PS: There was a problem of bullet points in the article, which is now fixed so that readers can understand better the 4 elements of the swiss knife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, this is an honor to have you on this blog. Thank you so much for your insights, and for your great conference. As a visual artist in my spare time (I know this might seem weird considering that I&#8217;m not a black pen girl!), your thoughts about codification made me think that it is the same thing about art, since each new way of representing the world generates so much interrogation, which basically creates art trends, with new rules and codifications. Anyway, I&#8217;m glad I could contribute to have Tech IT Easy readers discover your book, since I couldn&#8217;t stop reading it yesterday evening!</p>
<p>PS: There was a problem of bullet points in the article, which is now fixed so that readers can understand better the 4 elements of the swiss knife.</p>
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		<title>By: dan roam</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3896</link>
		<dc:creator>dan roam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great post Fidji -- and thanks for your encouraging comments about my presentation yesterday: its always enjoyable to share these ideas about visual thinking since *everybody* -- and this includes the &quot;red pen people&quot; as well -- just plain &#039;gets&#039; it right away.



Georgia -- to your fascinating comment that visual language is personal and chaotic, I would suggest that you&#039;re right... But to ok greater degree than verbal thinking us equally personal and chaotic. We&#039;ve just spent a lot more time creating and enforcing rules.



There are also an infinite number of &#039;rules&#039; about how we think visually, they just haven&#039;t been codified yet to the same degree. Then again, ancient Egypt -- far and away the most advanced civilization of its time -- did perfect a rigorous grammar in their written language of pictures (heiroglyphics).



Lots to think about. Glad to be part of the discussion!

Dan Roam

author of Thd Back of the Napkin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great post Fidji &#8212; and thanks for your encouraging comments about my presentation yesterday: its always enjoyable to share these ideas about visual thinking since *everybody* &#8212; and this includes the &#8220;red pen people&#8221; as well &#8212; just plain &#8216;gets&#8217; it right away.</p>
<p>Georgia &#8212; to your fascinating comment that visual language is personal and chaotic, I would suggest that you&#8217;re right&#8230; But to ok greater degree than verbal thinking us equally personal and chaotic. We&#8217;ve just spent a lot more time creating and enforcing rules.</p>
<p>There are also an infinite number of &#8216;rules&#8217; about how we think visually, they just haven&#8217;t been codified yet to the same degree. Then again, ancient Egypt &#8212; far and away the most advanced civilization of its time &#8212; did perfect a rigorous grammar in their written language of pictures (heiroglyphics).</p>
<p>Lots to think about. Glad to be part of the discussion!</p>
<p>Dan Roam</p>
<p>author of Thd Back of the Napkin</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3895</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great post!



There is definitely an emerging discipline which is all about exploring and conveying ideas visually. We have focused strongly on reading, writing and arithmetic in our school systems, and visual literacy skills have been neglected -- just at the moment when we need to process more complex, non-linear information than ever before.



This is why we have so many bad PowerPoints -- our schools don&#039;t teach the basic skills needed to communicate well visually.



Dan&#039;s book is a great contribution to this field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great post!</p>
<p>There is definitely an emerging discipline which is all about exploring and conveying ideas visually. We have focused strongly on reading, writing and arithmetic in our school systems, and visual literacy skills have been neglected &#8212; just at the moment when we need to process more complex, non-linear information than ever before.</p>
<p>This is why we have so many bad PowerPoints &#8212; our schools don&#8217;t teach the basic skills needed to communicate well visually.</p>
<p>Dan&#8217;s book is a great contribution to this field.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidji this post really puts me in comfort : I agree that if you cannot explain your vision to a child (through a drawing eventually) you have no idea what your problem is.

Comfort also comes from the fact that the exostracism of pwp power comes from a corporate environment: aligning boxes to pwp is to creativity what bureaucracy is to entrepreneurship.



however,unless you are an architect, visual thinking is so personal that carries a great deal of anarchy and risk of misinterpretation. Isn&#039;t this why we abandoned it in the first place and passed on to ultrasegmented syntaxed symbolic language? Well, not quite abandoned : I haven’t met anyone yet who writes down “the guy’s face seating infront of me is funny, frowning, has spots, curly hair” for fun and pleasure ….

I see me as a dark red guy, almost black, almost 70 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidji this post really puts me in comfort : I agree that if you cannot explain your vision to a child (through a drawing eventually) you have no idea what your problem is.</p>
<p>Comfort also comes from the fact that the exostracism of pwp power comes from a corporate environment: aligning boxes to pwp is to creativity what bureaucracy is to entrepreneurship.</p>
<p>however,unless you are an architect, visual thinking is so personal that carries a great deal of anarchy and risk of misinterpretation. Isn&#8217;t this why we abandoned it in the first place and passed on to ultrasegmented syntaxed symbolic language? Well, not quite abandoned : I haven’t met anyone yet who writes down “the guy’s face seating infront of me is funny, frowning, has spots, curly hair” for fun and pleasure ….</p>
<p>I see me as a dark red guy, almost black, almost 70 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Fain</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3899</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Fain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Roam is amazing. I didn&#039;t know about him until I read your post, and I find his cosmo-vision thrilling.



I&#039;m definitely a black-pen guy, exactly like Vincent.



Thanks for the fish Fidji, extremely valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Roam is amazing. I didn&#8217;t know about him until I read your post, and I find his cosmo-vision thrilling.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely a black-pen guy, exactly like Vincent.</p>
<p>Thanks for the fish Fidji, extremely valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Fidji SIMO</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3888</link>
		<dc:creator>Fidji SIMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is kind of ironic is that a tool like PowerPoint has been a great tool to present clearly problems and solutions for a while, but, since it is always a question of habits, now a simple drawing becomes more surprising and therefore potentially more likely to generate ideas that PowerPoint.



But what I appreciated in Dan&#039;s presentation is that he is not the type of guy who always puts creativity first on his list of prority, and he definitely acknowledges the need to adapt a picture to differents purposes and audiences. Which is why he describes is &quot;SQVID&quot; framework as a compromise between the right and left brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is kind of ironic is that a tool like PowerPoint has been a great tool to present clearly problems and solutions for a while, but, since it is always a question of habits, now a simple drawing becomes more surprising and therefore potentially more likely to generate ideas that PowerPoint.</p>
<p>But what I appreciated in Dan&#8217;s presentation is that he is not the type of guy who always puts creativity first on his list of prority, and he definitely acknowledges the need to adapt a picture to differents purposes and audiences. Which is why he describes is &#8220;SQVID&#8221; framework as a compromise between the right and left brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent van Wylick</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3889</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent van Wylick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kari: I agree, many IT-based solutions fall short when it comes to &quot;right-brained&quot; expressions. Even tech-tools like Wacom-tablet doesn&#039;t accurately convey a quick drawing well.



For remote brainstorming, I generally prefer to make a quick drawing, take a picture, and send it to whomever, as it&#039;s much richer (and quicker) than linear text or graphics-tools, and far cheaper then most (tablet-based, etc.) hardware that may come close to producing similar results, but also gives the occasional headache where compatibility &amp; processing is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kari: I agree, many IT-based solutions fall short when it comes to &#8220;right-brained&#8221; expressions. Even tech-tools like Wacom-tablet doesn&#8217;t accurately convey a quick drawing well.</p>
<p>For remote brainstorming, I generally prefer to make a quick drawing, take a picture, and send it to whomever, as it&#8217;s much richer (and quicker) than linear text or graphics-tools, and far cheaper then most (tablet-based, etc.) hardware that may come close to producing similar results, but also gives the occasional headache where compatibility &amp; processing is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari Silvennoinen</title>
		<link>http://www.techiteasy.org/2008/04/17/visual-thinking-a-conference-with-dan-roam/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari Silvennoinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended a course on Systems Thinking and the course focused on more soft ways to solve problems instead of using hard systems sciences, which usually fail miserably when dealing with complex, group problems.

I saw a huge benefit in drawing the problems as &quot;rich pictures&quot;. Some frameworks like viable system model (VSM) are also mostly graphical.

I find that especially technical oriented IT people should be tought some of this stuff, because I believe that many IT failures are caused by lack of understanding (communication, values, ...). Somehow these are missing when the problem is modeled and drawn in PowerPoint slides, but are there when just using coloured pens and napkins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended a course on Systems Thinking and the course focused on more soft ways to solve problems instead of using hard systems sciences, which usually fail miserably when dealing with complex, group problems.</p>
<p>I saw a huge benefit in drawing the problems as &#8220;rich pictures&#8221;. Some frameworks like viable system model (VSM) are also mostly graphical.</p>
<p>I find that especially technical oriented IT people should be tought some of this stuff, because I believe that many IT failures are caused by lack of understanding (communication, values, &#8230;). Somehow these are missing when the problem is modeled and drawn in PowerPoint slides, but are there when just using coloured pens and napkins.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent van Wylick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent van Wylick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fidji, nice to see you again!



Interesting categorisation of visual methods and personalities. I&#039;m definitely a black-pen guy, always drawing/dreaming away, until some yellow-/red-pen people come and correct me :) And Visio is my favourite software on the computer, so I guess I like talking about the &quot;How&quot;.



In any case, I guess this is another book on my wishlist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fidji, nice to see you again!</p>
<p>Interesting categorisation of visual methods and personalities. I&#8217;m definitely a black-pen guy, always drawing/dreaming away, until some yellow-/red-pen people come and correct me <img src='http://www.techiteasy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And Visio is my favourite software on the computer, so I guess I like talking about the &#8220;How&#8221;.</p>
<p>In any case, I guess this is another book on my wishlist!</p>
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