Comments on: OK you cheapskates, what do you think of the iPhone now? http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/ A Technology and Business Weblog provided to You by a Global Group of Friends. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:29:11 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4266 Vincent van Wylick Wed, 13 May 2009 11:42:26 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4266 Maybe a good way to separate life-areas: Get the E71 for work (no fun, haha) and the Touch for playtime. Maybe a good way to separate life-areas: Get the E71 for work (no fun, haha) and the Touch for playtime.

]]> By: Matthias Schwenk http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4265 Matthias Schwenk Wed, 13 May 2009 11:32:11 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4265 @Vincent: The E71 could be "Made in Germany": robust, lasting forever but no fun! :-) @Kari: So why don't you take the iPhone? You may never think again of Android Phones. And even if: The variety is still going to rise and sooner oder later they will find their way to Finland, too. @Vincent: The E71 could be “Made in Germany”: robust, lasting forever but no fun! :-)

@Kari: So why don’t you take the iPhone? You may never think again of Android Phones. And even if: The variety is still going to rise and sooner oder later they will find their way to Finland, too.

]]> By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4272 Vincent van Wylick Wed, 13 May 2009 10:55:43 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4272 Sounds like a plan :) The Nokia E71 got some pretty damn good reviews. Wired called it the best phone for productive people. Sounds like a plan :) The Nokia E71 got some pretty damn good reviews. Wired called it the best phone for productive people.

]]> By: Kari http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4273 Kari Wed, 13 May 2009 10:43:20 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4273 @Matthias, nope. HTC phones have never been really available here from the operators; it's just Nokia, Samsung or iPhone here (should I even mention SonyEricsson anymore, they have so lost the smartphone game?). For this reason, on the San Francisco trip couple of months back, some of the guys brought back a bunch of HTC G1s. I'd love to see Google's Market Place to catch up with App Store, but it's all up to the developers. And as I see it now, it's the same thing as with Linux+Win vs. Mac apps. The developers for the latter pay a lot more attention on UI, where as apps for Linux / Windows are their own islands, UI and experience -wise. @Vince, yeah stock delays suck. Samsung's i7500 should be available in June-July in the "important" markets of Europe. Maybe I should just get a heavily-subsidized Nokia phone and moan about it until something better comes along. @Matthias, nope. HTC phones have never been really available here from the operators; it’s just Nokia, Samsung or iPhone here (should I even mention SonyEricsson anymore, they have so lost the smartphone game?). For this reason, on the San Francisco trip couple of months back, some of the guys brought back a bunch of HTC G1s.

I’d love to see Google’s Market Place to catch up with App Store, but it’s all up to the developers. And as I see it now, it’s the same thing as with Linux+Win vs. Mac apps. The developers for the latter pay a lot more attention on UI, where as apps for Linux / Windows are their own islands, UI and experience -wise.

@Vince, yeah stock delays suck. Samsung’s i7500 should be available in June-July in the “important” markets of Europe.

Maybe I should just get a heavily-subsidized Nokia phone and moan about it until something better comes along.

]]> By: Matthias Schwenk http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4271 Matthias Schwenk Wed, 13 May 2009 09:51:24 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4271 @Kari Is the HTC Magic ("Google Phone No. 2") already available in Finland? Vodafone recently introduced it in Germany (as well as Spain and Great Britain). I got it immediately as I am a customer with Vodafone and thereby excluded from the iPhone (which is T-Mobile only in Germany). My monthly plan is 55€ for unlimited data and unlimited calling to Vodafone and the "normal" net (Festnetz, I'm missing the correct term in english). The phone itself costs 1€ upfront. My experience so far: Very good. Let's hope that the Google Market Place will catch up with the App Store from Apple! @Kari Is the HTC Magic (“Google Phone No. 2″) already available in Finland? Vodafone recently introduced it in Germany (as well as Spain and Great Britain). I got it immediately as I am a customer with Vodafone and thereby excluded from the iPhone (which is T-Mobile only in Germany).

My monthly plan is 55€ for unlimited data and unlimited calling to Vodafone and the “normal” net (Festnetz, I’m missing the correct term in english). The phone itself costs 1€ upfront.

My experience so far: Very good. Let’s hope that the Google Market Place will catch up with the App Store from Apple!

]]> By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4270 Vincent van Wylick Wed, 13 May 2009 09:43:57 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4270 @Kari: I think that the new iPhone may be announced together with the iPhone OS 3 in a month or so, but that there will be stocking-delays (a few weeks in the US, a few months in Europe). @Matthias: that's the direction, I'm tending towards also. @Kari: I think that the new iPhone may be announced together with the iPhone OS 3 in a month or so, but that there will be stocking-delays (a few weeks in the US, a few months in Europe).

@Matthias: that’s the direction, I’m tending towards also.

]]> By: Matthias Schwenk http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4269 Matthias Schwenk Wed, 13 May 2009 09:40:45 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4269 Luxembourg is a tough case! I would stay with my old phone, at least for the next few months and buy the iPod Touch. If there really is free WiFi all over Luxemburg, this might be a good solution. At least you don't mess up with expensive roaming near to France or Germany. Luxembourg is a tough case! I would stay with my old phone, at least for the next few months and buy the iPod Touch. If there really is free WiFi all over Luxemburg, this might be a good solution. At least you don’t mess up with expensive roaming near to France or Germany.

]]> By: Kari http://www.techiteasy.org/2009/05/13/ok-you-cheapskates-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-now/#comment-4268 Kari Wed, 13 May 2009 09:16:26 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/?p=1817#comment-4268 Well, I'm in similar situation with you. For me, 16GB iPhone with monthly unlimited data (Free wifi-coverage in Helsinki is spotty) would be 43e / month for 2 years with no up-front fees. (As a comparison, the Nokia iPhone-wannabe would be 32 e/month on the same terms) (Add 5e for theoretical 1Mbit connection instead of 384kbit) I've heard many people to say that iPhone is the best thing ever, whereas the only people who have got Android are guys with Computer Science-degrees. While I'd really be interested in an open platform that has possibilities, the only phone I'm considering is Samsung's i7500. The only problem is that I've no idea if any carrier will have a plan with it and it'll be on sale in September here in Nokia-land. My main interest in Android is Google-integration. On the other hand, my main fear with Android is that it'll remain in the shitty Linux UI experience level for a long, long time to come. It has the same promise as Linux, and... by the looks of it, the same execution. My belief is that iPhone 3.0 software and the new iPhone will be released at the same time, and WWDC is a suitable launch time for at least the former. This is a bad time for cheapskates everywhere. Well, I’m in similar situation with you. For me, 16GB iPhone with monthly unlimited data (Free wifi-coverage in Helsinki is spotty) would be 43e / month for 2 years with no up-front fees. (As a comparison, the Nokia iPhone-wannabe would be 32 e/month on the same terms) (Add 5e for theoretical 1Mbit connection instead of 384kbit)

I’ve heard many people to say that iPhone is the best thing ever, whereas the only people who have got Android are guys with Computer Science-degrees. While I’d really be interested in an open platform that has possibilities, the only phone I’m considering is Samsung’s i7500. The only problem is that I’ve no idea if any carrier will have a plan with it and it’ll be on sale in September here in Nokia-land.

My main interest in Android is Google-integration. On the other hand, my main fear with Android is that it’ll remain in the shitty Linux UI experience level for a long, long time to come. It has the same promise as Linux, and… by the looks of it, the same execution.

My belief is that iPhone 3.0 software and the new iPhone will be released at the same time, and WWDC is a suitable launch time for at least the former.

This is a bad time for cheapskates everywhere.

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